The puppet of yours or another?

Is the man puppeteering himself, from above? Does one control the self or does something else? I prefer the answer found in either question, surely it could be that the self controls itself from what it can do one day, but the other ( that something controls us ) is far more horrific.

Are we following our own desires or the ends of someone else?

In this post I won't argue it is both, rather I will view it from either perspective and further advance the schism into the tribes, such that the liberty of the question asked ( the motion of the persona ) be shown to move yet again!

Controlled by ourselves:

A still relevant image!

This is the perspective of religion, which stated that we are free in will and able to do as we wish, thus we control ourselves from some heavenly space above, which is not like the previous in the thought that we can control our own lives, meaning their is some form of unmoved mover in ourselves.

But some argue that this monism is God, but I state that is a drawing and so in our image, while Gods presence be far greater then the monism of ourselves. God is not the will of ourselves, so is not the one moving us, if he did it would be inconsistent to religion and its need to remove the absurdity.

So we have a self somewhere, that is acting in this view, and this self acts in accordance with what it views as a circumstance, so it isn't up to me to define how it is controlled but more specifically that of the person that is not myself to decide. Because my monism, is not the monism of another, which like a fish swims other currents.

So religion is often said to be of perceptive freedom, while the act of other things is not.

So the answer to this key, is that ourselves controls what we do, and what it can't do in its own eye.

If one could decide what you do, then their would be something other then that freedom to decline the act of the other, so we wonder what this firstly other worldly self is, and this gives us another motion, because the motion moved from what freedom is, to who and now how.

But this is the answer that comes after the other.

Controlled by another

The absurdity returns!

The percept of the otherside, that remains is whether we can also view the world as a place where one is in control and the freedom is non existent, as tho a nature behind our freedoms, creates the acts we live, without our knowledge of what they are.

And their is no reason we can't know the controller of all things, who takes to us as determined decisions that are meant for one root. We could view the idea that we are controlled as something other then freedom and it could not spring from freedom, so it is a self determined system.

Where each person controls the other, in interaction through the manifestation of their own determined acts, such that each person is absurdly self controlled by others, towards that other end they did not seek, in some manner of go this way or you still will.

So the view that we effect each other, is the view that we react to each other and this is all we are.

So here we are as human centipedes reacting uncontrollably by the determination of others to do.

Mindless, the system here states we simply react within reigns, controlled by other chains in the system within predetermined states of action, that are identical every time and react to the other systems predictably and self lackingly. So we wonder what use this could have.

We have two more questions:

Two tribes were made:

The ones who are free from above

The ones who are deterred to else

So we have found two answers, that may disclude others, but we will pause here to check their primitives, to show that it can really be viewed as a mix of either.

However, let us debate for a time on which is true, such that we know the argument for why they are true, so Bold is free and Italic is determined:

We are free in being, because we can choose how we live

We are determined in each other, because we are expected to react.

We react the way we seek to react, it doesn't always copy

Our choice of reaction is based on how we view already from others

We can create novelty within these spaces of our freedom

Novelty implies a determined return of precedents from before it came

We view the freedom as a tool for itself, in reaction to ourselves

If we could react to ourselves, we wouldn't be able to act at all

So, we have our divided answer for either tribe, but their is little reason to care for which it is, whether we are determined or free, because it genuinely changes nothing about reality, so long as it isn't applied to effect reality:

If Philosophy could be applied in the real world, it would then move to a new persona, and this would provide some vaster property to use in reality, but we could do it with both by finding the primitive truth of either, the problem is the disillusion of the other's belief.

So it becomes only available to those who have already seen the primitive of either, since neither Philosophy or Religion ever really change, but the application continues.

Since history changes and the beliefs react with each other in tribal reactions, that render absurdity unless viewed from the self interest and not the whole pointlessness.

But these two systems of view result in different powers:

The ability to choose whichever one seeks as the end of the road for that period, which permits it to continue on forever as a story of self interest within a greater community, a freedom for the people that desire it, where one can be of interest and of design through that freedom. Through which they gain favor in themselves alone.

The ability to cause reaction in whatever person one desires, without actual self control and without actual self involved, mindless and selfless effect of the distant other by the self, through what the person constructs as expected reaction in other people, through which they gain ability and are also manipulated by others towards those other worldly ends.

The primitive capacity, is the determined reaction of others that you suspect they will react with.

The other primitive capacity, is the self taught ability which one seeks in their wants and abilities.

So perhaps in the next two posts, I will create a means of using this magic and this science in either philosophy or religion, whose definitions in the persona, have shifted.